Friday, October 5, 2007

other blog post

9:43 AM Posted by: M., 3 comments

Here is what I posted on my myspace blog. it's not profound, but i am curious about peoples' reactions.

I am having trouble seeing the christian God as anything other than totally narcissistic and self-centered. Here is a quick outline of why.

FREE WILL is the cause of all suffering(bad people do bad things to other people because they have free will to do what they want). God gave us free will. God created the idea of free will--therefore God created (or more lightly, "allows") suffering.

God knew about free will before it existed. God knew about suffering before it existed. (Because he is omniscient)

God knew free will would cause suffering. God still CHOSE free will.
therefore...
God values free will over the alleviation of suffering.

The purpose of free will is to allow us to more purely seek God, and not be robots in our worship of Him. Ultimately it is so God gets the most honest glory and honor.

God chose free will to get the most glory and honor for himself.
God values his own glory and honor over the well-being of humans (because if there was no free will to worship him, there would be no suffering).

God chooses himself over people for his own benefit. God is selfish.



ALSO...

Why do we have to be forgiven to be saved and break the original sin of Adam and Eve? God made up everything, therefore he made up the fact that Jesus had to die and we have to ask forgiveness for sins. If God is all-powerful, he is not bound by the Devil's power, and he can choose to save everyone on earth from eternity in Hell. Yet christians believe that unbelievers go to hell. This says that God can save everyone, yet he chooses not to.



The church tells people that unbelievers dont believe the Truth, because they have a lust for sin. This is not true. A lot of us don't believe, because it just doesnt make sense.

People have believed in gods and afterlives long before christianity existed. I need help seeing why Christianity is the Truth, and not just some other comfy blanket for humans to keep warm with in this terrible world.


3 comments:

exapologist said...
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exapologist said...

"FREE WILL is the cause of all suffering(bad people do bad things to other people because they have free will to do what they want). God gave us free will. God created the idea of free will--therefore God created (or more lightly, "allows") suffering."

This seems right to me. "The Free Will Defense" doesn't get a pass in the affairs of human life. So, for example, if a man rapes your daughter, and you could have stepped in to stop it (say you just stood around and watched -- or even stood while there shouting "stop! Don't do this evil thing!"), then you're morally blameworthy. Pleading that you're not responsible, since it was the perpetrator's free will that caused the rape and not yours, cuts no ice: the fact that he's *guilty* for the actual rape doesn't entail that you're *innocent* for not protecting your daughter.

ric booth said...

Marie, I blog over at wordpress and someone links to you from there... I was reading some of your stuff and find it refreshing. You ask the tough questions. I applaud your exit from organized-mass-mainstream-religion. The God-Bless-the-USA gospel has infected many. Check out www.thesimpleway.org and Shane Claibourne. He has a book titled The Irresistible Revolution. He's been arrested for feeding the homeless. He's one of my favorite rebels.